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  London Protest 2018

  by josephus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well today marks the beginning and biggest day of our protest at the london excel.. we believe it's a record number at around 100 exjws at the front door.. we spoke to lots of jw's and one young man studying who has quit after talking to us.

  we've been approached privately by jw's who thanked us for coming and the security at the event treated us very well.. if anyone wants to see some clips they are available on my channel the great apostate.. thanks to all for the support and love..

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  Google trends for the search term "jwfacts" in the UK only.

  First image is last twelve months, second image is last 7 days.

  Guess what the faithful were doing after convention day ended?

  

  
  
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  JW-RUSSIA.org cross image

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was just browsing the russian jw site and saw this image that appears to represent christian persecution by showing handcuffs in front of prison bars that appear to form a cross.

  which would be weird because they don't even believe in the cross, or maybe it was clip art from another source and they didn't notice.

  or last and most likely i'm seeing things that aren't there 😜.

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  Jw always tout how much attention they give to details when in comes to their imagery. They claim to research everything about it. The images in their study WT are also crafted very meticulously to convey hidden rules and guilt in the smallest details.

  I wouldn't put it past them to select an image that resembles a cross on purpose. Most JW will never notice and otherwise it can be denied....and to (other) Christians the image will subconsciously make them feel more connected to the topic....

  But there's a big gap between 'wouldn't put it past them' and 'I think they did'...
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  Jehovah's Witnesses: Why some persecuted faiths grab consistent headlines and others don't

  by Tahoe in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.getreligion.org/getreligion/2018/8/6/jehovahs-witnesses-why-some-persecuted-faiths-grab-consistent-headlines-and-others-dont.

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  But then I dropped the issue, despite the efforts of Jehovah's Witnesses’ public relations people to keep me focused on it.

  Interesting. Apparently JW representatives actively approach media to get and keep their struggles in Russia in the spot light of attention.

  Telling the people how persecuted they are. Trying to gain sympathy with the people and maybe governments.
  

  I guess they prefer that over being in the media for child abuse issues.

  For one thing is sure: JW don't give a rat's ass about freedom of religion, as long as they aren't restricted themselves. And even then they will pretend they're the only ones to be persecuted.
  
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  Have they stopped writing new magazines?

  by asp59 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  even if the world and organization(not for better,)change a lot from the 80s.

  the watchtower articles seem exactly like the one we study in the ,80s.

  there's a zombie feeling to them.

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  The schedule for the late Theorcratic Ministry School has been rerun for decades. I think it was a 2 year repeat cycle.

  I guess they lacked inspiration. :-p
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  The Netherlands - Upcoming peaceful protest to commemorate the effect of sexual abuse in closed communities such as JW (october 6th)

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  facebook event link here.

  translation of the dutch event description:.

  foundation reclaimed voices organizes a peaceful protest to commemorate the effects of sexual abuse within closed religious communities such as jehovah's witnesses.. the location of the protest offers room to about 200 people.

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  Facebook event link here

  Translation of the Dutch event description:

  Foundation Reclaimed Voices organizes a peaceful protest to commemorate the effects of sexual abuse within closed religious communities such as Jehovah's Witnesses.

  The location of the protest offers room to about 200 people. It would be nice if we could be present with a nice group. People who experienced abuse, bystanders and allies who commemorate the effects of abuse within (closed) religious communities together, and who advocate for an environment in which every child can grow up safely.

  Currently a dignified program that suits the goal of this protest is being put together. Among other things, persons who have faced sexual abuse within the Jehovah's Witnesses will be remembered by symbols and music. There will also be room to express your sadness, anger or concern in your own appropriate, dignified way.

  Furthermore a manifesto will be handed to the mayor of Emmen [the town where Bethel is], who has promised to be willing to accept the manifesto.

  Because the area where this protest is organized is limited in space and we want to have an overview of the people who plan to be there, we expect you to sign up for the protest in advance. Further details of the protest, such as the exact location, will be shared with those who signed up at a later time.
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  EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: Angus Stewart QC on Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Australian Child Abuse Royal Commission (by Lara Kaput and Louise Goode)

  by jwleaks in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  angus stewart qc, senior counsel, has had a long and distinguished legal career, beginning with his passion for justice in south africa, fighting apartheid, then later working in the truth and reconciliation commission, and more recently acting as senior counsel in the case studies on jehovah's witnesses in the australian royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse.

  angus discusses, from his own personal point of view, and not representing the carc or the commissioners, what the journey was like, learning about the internal law and policy of watchtower society, how he became determined to stand for justice for all the victims and for the whole community of ex jehovah's witnesses and how he felt about the evidence being presented to him and the people presenting it.. interview by lara kaput and louise goode for jw community podcast.. https://jwcommunitypodcast.simplecast.fm/cf4d380d.

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  I don't normally listen or watch any JW podcasts/videos. But this one is very cool.
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  Newspaper reports: Dutch government will initiate inquiry into child abuse within JW community

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  today a dutch newspaper published an in-depth follow-up item on jw abuse issues.. the most interesting part of the article is this:.

  the politicians also let themselves be heard.

  a month ago the house of representatives voted unanimously in favor of a motion to enforce an independent inquiry into abuse within the jehovah's witnesses, as the organization refuses to initiate it.

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  So as far as a “legitimate” request is concerned, it’s illegitimate to request an independent investigation based on the words of former members.

  By the way, who added that word "legitimate" to Jesus' words? He sure didn't say it. Are you now taking Watchtower words as gospel over what Jesus said?

  In fact Jesus didn't specify what types of requests Christians should be willing to comply with, but the context speaks about turning the other cheek when being hit.

  Is hitting someone illegitimate? Jesus wanted his followers to comply anyway.

  Does the Bible specify anywhere what types of demands of requests from governments can be ignored?

  Is 'illegitimate' part of the exemptions the Bible makes?
  

  I'm not sure though if you really care about what the Bible says. After all you're on here all the time, associating and debating with apostates. Something table something demons?
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  Newspaper reports: Dutch government will initiate inquiry into child abuse within JW community

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  today a dutch newspaper published an in-depth follow-up item on jw abuse issues.. the most interesting part of the article is this:.

  the politicians also let themselves be heard.

  a month ago the house of representatives voted unanimously in favor of a motion to enforce an independent inquiry into abuse within the jehovah's witnesses, as the organization refuses to initiate it.

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  it’s illegitimate to request an independent investigation based on the words of former members

  Oh good, another loophole! Sorry Jesus, I didn't hear you when you spoke about that two mile thingy!
  
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  Newspaper reports: Dutch government will initiate inquiry into child abuse within JW community

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  today a dutch newspaper published an in-depth follow-up item on jw abuse issues.. the most interesting part of the article is this:.

  the politicians also let themselves be heard.

  a month ago the house of representatives voted unanimously in favor of a motion to enforce an independent inquiry into abuse within the jehovah's witnesses, as the organization refuses to initiate it.

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  I'll even translate the quote for you:

  It may be, for instance, that a [Dutch Minister] asks [JW leaders] to [start an inquiry into child abuse issues] that [they] would prefer not to do but that is not contrary to God’s law. How will [JW leaders] react? [They] may feel that unreasonable demands are being made on [their] time and energies, and [they] may therefore react indignantly. The result may be ill will. On the other hand, if [they] comply sullenly, [they] may lose [their] inner peace. The solution? [They should do] as Jesus recommended​—go the second mile. [They should] not only [start the inquiry] but even more than what is asked. [They should do] it willingly. - The Watchtower, 2005 (revised edition)
  
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  Newspaper reports: Dutch government will initiate inquiry into child abuse within JW community

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  today a dutch newspaper published an in-depth follow-up item on jw abuse issues.. the most interesting part of the article is this:.

  the politicians also let themselves be heard.

  a month ago the house of representatives voted unanimously in favor of a motion to enforce an independent inquiry into abuse within the jehovah's witnesses, as the organization refuses to initiate it.

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  How many child abuse cases were there in the Netherlands in WT?

  We don't know, neither do you. An inquiry could clear that up.

  The CC also didn't think they had a problem, but they started the inquiry anyway.

  It was only through that inquiry that they found out the scope of the issue.